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lxl James lxl · May 13, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Anyways I'm not here to QQ or gored haha x] I'm just here to showing about my my idea on HA x]

Like you notice some people can't get in group of HA, because other want them to show HA title so they can run in their group right? Well...lets make it like this...how about Anet make a rank server for HA x]

Like this, from R1-3 they join in HA, BUT every1 are in that server are all from R1-3. Then from 3-5, 6-8 and finally 9-15 (= basicly it is like RA or TA but not really since HA are base on fame rank, while most people (like myself seem can't find a group to join to get that rank up)

To make it more interest...from R1-3 when we win Hall we get like somewhat like a HA chest BUT! In beginner chest so that people won't farm off lower rank on chest. Let say it is call the same name as HA chest but it won't drop any high end weapons/shields or mini such as "Crystalline/Obsidian Blade/Eternal Blade or Mini Ghostly Hero" for R1-3 and 3-5 server. (= So when we get up to rank 6-8 and 9-15 server we can get big chest like right now (=

btw my grammars suck, I understand x]

Eragon Zarroc · May 13, 2009, 06:57 PM // 18:57

there isn't enough people playing HA anymore to warrant multiple sections of HA for different ranks.

Kinlo · May 13, 2009, 07:00 PM // 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

there isn't enough people playing HA anymore to warrant multiple sections of HA for different ranks.

This.

12chars.

lxl James lxl · May 13, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04

who know right? I mean some people quit HA or tired of HA cause many high ranker are demanding on same rank. So some of those people quit cause of that reason. But it might just work =p I mean there is a Zquest for a reason (= when there is zquests I tried to get my zquest on HA done...but group finding are hard and suffering...so you know how most of us none HA ranker feel about that (=

Shayne Hawke · May 13, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

there isn't enough people playing HA anymore to warrant multiple sections of HA for different ranks.

I can understand that, but how many players do you think would go to HA if it became more of a tiered system?

eldrethv · May 13, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32

/signed

Great idea

turbo234 · May 13, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

I can understand that, but how many players do you think would go to HA if it became more of a tiered system?

exactly what i was thinking.

beaverlegions · May 13, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

/notsigned
This is even worse than having ppl show their rank

Zzes Tyan · May 13, 2009, 09:11 PM // 21:11

/unsigned

r3 is easy to get, just run Mathway or IWAY. you'll get it in a week

Teh [prefession]-zorz · May 13, 2009, 09:56 PM // 21:56

Already been suggested numerous times that i remember.

/no

Mr. G · May 13, 2009, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Quote:

r3 is easy to get, just run Mathway or IWAY. you'll get it in a week

Yes because those are the sort of people we want gaining ranks right?

Time = Skill?

Aljasha · May 14, 2009, 11:26 AM // 11:26

this would separate the ha community more. so no.

MithranArkanere · May 14, 2009, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

there isn't enough people playing HA anymore to warrant multiple sections of HA for different ranks.

ZQuests say hello.

Tommy's · May 14, 2009, 01:34 PM // 13:34

So if me having r3 wants to play with my friend having r9, we cant play together anymore? Then not signed.

ZenRgy · May 14, 2009, 02:52 PM // 14:52

I /signed this solely because of your avatar.

Auron of Neon · May 14, 2009, 02:55 PM // 14:55

OP is hot.

Thread title should be "hey check out my bod."

refer · May 14, 2009, 07:48 PM // 19:48

I propose a new idea based off yours: have a rankless HA room, then a ranked one for 3+. You can switch between the two freely even with no rank, but it might help those who can't get into a ranked group usually.

MagmaRed · May 14, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Just make titles unable to be displayed in HA and remove the emote from the HA location. This way nobody can know what anyone elses rank is, and everyone can get into any group. That, or join a guild who does HA and learn from people with a higher rank. Guilds do exist that 'train' new people for things like this, and you will be earning your rank as you are learning how to be better.

Jessyi · May 14, 2009, 08:47 PM // 20:47

hahaha no.

We don't even need to discuss the technical reasons for why this won't happen - we can skip straight to the ideological ones. For example - pugs suck. r9+ pugs suck a little less than r3 pugs, but only marginally. People think of rank alone as being this huge insurmountable paradoxical barrier to getting into good teams, but it's not. They think you need fame to get fame, but you can't get fame if you don't have fame. Maybe if all anyone did was pug that might be true, and there wouldn't be any r12's if it were, and far fewer r9/10/11's.

Everyone starts off pugging, you won't be forever. If you ever succeed at HA, you'll look upon pugs with contempt at worst, and a waste of time at best. Why? Cause you'll have friends, and guildies. People network in PvP - big time. Who you know and who knows you is worth infinitely more than any title could ever be.

Better make peace with the fact that PvP is a meritocracy, and that if you stink, no amount of fame farming in the world is going to make a difference. If you're r12 you could probably walk into any HA guild you like, but if you suck, people will figure it out and quick and then you'll be capeless. You could make your own guild of course, and hordes of shitters would flock to your guild which would still be lousy because good players know good playing when they see it, and they don't humor bad results for long.

Everyone who makes the kinds of suggestions the OP did have the same thing in common - they fail to realize that if they got into a high ranked pug, they'd be kicked after one, maybe two matches without learning anything more than they would of in the r3 pug. You want up? Then get better. It doesn't matter if your team loses a hundred times, if YOU, the INDIVIDUAL PLAYER get smarter. It's easy - observe matches, research play guides, then practice, practice, practice. If you're getting better, people will take notice. You have to be good before you're going to get into a good team, or guild and stay there, and no rule or title or lack thereof is going to change that. Of course, like I said before, you could farm with nubtrash and end up as a lousy high rank (see above). Whatever.

k i'm done

Ariena Najea · May 14, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

This is one of the best PvP oriented suggestions I have ever seen on Guru. Ever notice how many poor people are wandering around the International Districts just looking for a group. These people typically don't get into PUGs, since most PUGs won't take anyone who isn't specifically looking for their gimmick build (ie Mathway). Also, you'd be surprised I'm sure to see the number of people in American d1 during peak times trying to find a team, who are unused to the format and don't know that "everyone" groups in International. Most new players are simply discouraged, and have a hard enough time against r3 PUGs, much less guild teams that enter.

My suggestions for entry Heroes' Ascent:

No players r4+ may enter, average team rank must be <= 2
When a team wins in the HoH, the team name does not display in chat
Same map sequence as standard HA
Fame caps at 20 instead of 40 per win standard
Balthazar Faction received is 60% of standard
End chest does not give unique drops (ie high-end weapons or Ghostly)

Beyond r3 (my suggestions are designed for a team of r2 and below, possibly with a r3 helping) other entry level HA is not needed.